Carzala source book
This booklet is intended for both GMs and Players in DQ.
- Ver 1.0 Carzala Guide 15 MB PDF First public cut of the document.
- Ver 1.0A Carzala Guide 12 MB PDF Addresses issues pointed out on the 13th & 14th Feb except page 29 issues.
- Ver 1.0B Carzala Guide 22 MB PDF Addresses minor issues raised at the meeting on the 23rd.
REMOVED LINKS AS NOT FUNCTIONAL AND POTENTIALLY UNSAFE
It is intended as a printed resource, so that it can be used quickly and easily at run time in game. It is intended to offer details and depth to the 'geo-political areas of Carzala' such as more powerful individuals, figures or families or clans. This is so that GMs can be more comfortable running games which may involve political elements designed to create tension for characters. It is also intended that the information in this booklet is, for the most part, common knowledge within the greater Carzala area. It should be accessible for characters (with the appropriate skills or knowledge), so that the player can gain some insight into the 'depth of the Carzala geo-political arena'. This will support the player's ability to play the character.
Process that I want to follow from here is: Put out PDF document and printed copies for GM review (Sat 16th of Feb).
- Allow a week for GMs to read it and make notes.(16th to 23rd Feb)
- Get everyone together on the 23rd for coffee/tea at my place at 31 Methuen Road at 10am till 12noon.
- Review face to face what changes are needed for it to be game and GM friendly.
- Aim to have those changes fixed on Sat the 23rd Feb.
- Have the new PDF and booklet ready for review between the 23rd and until the 11th of March 2008.
- Vote the booklet into play at the Gods meeting on the 11th of March 2008.
- Once voted in (if acceptable), we will add the content to the DQ wiki so that the two sources remain the same.
If people do have questions about the booklet please post them here. I look forward to seeing people on the 23rd.
--Jono 10:43, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
Price per booklet
Since it is 36 pages, it works out at 9 double sided colour A3 sheets.
Stationery Warehouse can colour photocopy them at a cost as follows:
1 copy.. at a time (9 double sided A3 sheets) ~$50.00 per booklet + binding.
2 copies at a time (9 double sided A3 sheets) ~$45.00 per booklet + binding.
11 copies at a time (9 double sided A3 sheets) ~$33.00 per booklet + binding.
Volume breakpoints are 1 = $5.60, 20 = $5.00 each, 100 = $3.59 each, 500 = $2.30 each
Source Book Editing / Review Comments
page 9
- Westgate
- Q: Subinfeudation page shows a Baron of Westgate rather than it's status as a Freetown.
- A: Currently we have both. We have a Freetown of Westgate under a charter, and we have a Barony which currently does not have any Baron. The barony covers the region including the manors & villages & hamlets (which for the most part are ruins), and the Freetown covers the town of Westgate. We can change it to something else if the GMs wish but I felt that this accurately describes the situation. --Jono 14:13, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
That makes a lot of sense. With just the town name in the barony on the image thought it makes it quite confusing. Perhaps the paragraph you wrote above could be added somewhere to clarify it within the document. --Mandos 14:59, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
Taking your advice Mandos I have changed it to:
Westgate (Brastor Holdings)
Baron Hammer Halfcoin of Westgate was an old Dwarf warrior who was killed defending Westgate in 802. Westgate was completely destroyed by the undead attack. The site lay abandoned for years. The site of the ruin has been resettled by ex-slaves from the far off lands of the Lunar Empire, and also of Arabie. This free town under a charter from Lord Leto DeWinter (as of 806WK). The Barony which currently does not have any Baron covers the region including the manors & villages & hamlets (which for the most part are ruins), and the Freetown covers the town of Westgate. The town is led by middle-aged human ex-gladiator, Silanus Ausonius, from the Lunar Empire. Under his skilful leadership, the town now boasts; law and order, no undead, its first harvest of olives, strong wooden buildings, an earth and wooden palisade with watch towers, and a small but well-trained town militia.
Trade has restarted with the villages and hamlets to the north and to Brastor Landing. Some trade has been started with Novadom city to the south through Griffon Pass, under the watchful eyes of the merchant brothers of the Henrikson clan of Seagate. Baron Rainer of Novadom supports them.
--Jono 15:30, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
Hi Jono, I have taken the bit you added and moved the text around a bit to form the following as a suggested rewrite.
Westgate (Brastor Holdings)
The Barony of Westgate currently consists of a number of villages, manors and hamlets around it's former capital Westgate Town. The barony was formerly governed by Baron Hammer Halfcoin of Westgate,an old Dwarf warrior who was killed defending the Township in 802 during a battle which left the town in ruins. The surrounding lands comprising the rest of the Barony have as yet not been resettled and remain mostly in ruins.
Since 806 the town of Westgate is no longer part of the Baronial lands and is instead a freetown under a charter from Duke Leto DeWinter. he site of the ruin has been resettled by ex-slaves from the far off lands of the Lunar Empire, and also of Arabie. The town is led by middle-aged human ex-gladiator, Silanus Ausonius, from the Lunar Empire. Under his skilful leadership, the town now boasts; law and order, no undead, its first harvest of olives, strong wooden buildings, an earth and wooden palisade with watch towers, and a small but well-trained town militia.
Trade has restarted with the villages and hamlets to the north and to Brastor Landing. Some trade has been started with Novadom city to the south through Griffon Pass, under the watchful eyes of the merchant brothers of the Henrikson clan of Seagate. Baron Rainer of Novadom supports them.
--Mandos 16:54, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
I have updated the book with your rewrite. I have added and change the index markers.
--Jono 17:24, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
page 10
- Castle Chilton
The document says that there is an anti-magic field around Castle Chilton, extending up to 50 feet from its walls, and there are amulets and stuff to go with it.
As I understand it, no player is supposed to be the Duke. Is that in the process of changing?
page 28
- Duchy of Seagate
- "A milk maid and Courtier". Is that meant to be Carter?
Fixed.
--Jono 17:43, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
- Area of Mordeaux
- Should be "Bishopric of Mordeaux"
Done. --Jono 17:43, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
page 29
- Western Kingdom
- I'd be keen to change this around a bit. There's an Aladar picture on the previous page (which looks good... a little "older", more rustic), and Borderlay could be ignored (its part of Aquila, but close to Bowcourt)... I'd prefer the Aquilans to be German (Braun & Schneider plates 34-36). Bowcourt is preferably more "French" or "Burgundian" -- more what is shown for Eltrandor. The current WK images look a bit late (to me), I'd prefer we stayed pre-Elizabethan.
For those that are interested the images & plates used in the booklet and that Martin is talking about come from the following website:
http://www.siue.edu/COSTUMES/COSTUME1_INDEX.HTML --Jono 17:48, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
Here are the plates Martin is talking about: http://www.siue.edu/COSTUMES/COSTUME6_INDEX.HTML#Plate34
--Jono 17:50, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
page 24
- Richard Lowlands
- not of noble blood is a bit odd for the WK ambassador given the strong feudalism of the kingdom, but if not originally noble wouldn't he likely have been ennobled by now? Baron Lowlands has a nice ring to it. :)
I have taken Martins advice and changed it to read:
Ambassador for the Western Kingdom is Baron Richard Lowlands. He is a handsome human male, in his late thirties. He is a professional ambassador and negotiator, who served in Alfheim before coming to Seagate. He is a skilled courtier who speaks a dozen languages and is known to be a Namer. He is all business, representing his master, King Ulric Schwarzrotgold of the Western Kingdom, very well. His large well-appointed house in New Seagate is home to ~60 servants, ~20 skilled guards, ~20 courtiers. He spends ~400,000sp per year.
--Jono 15:42, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
- Bishop Winton of Novalar
- arms shown are the Bishopric of Mordeaux, which would be appropriate if he is the ambassador for that area but that is not mentioned in his description.
- Novalar is the See of Tomas Xerxes (commonly call Archbishop Mordeaux), Winton really needs to be from somewhere else.
- He's a Gabrielite Wiccan? They exist, but are vanishingly rare and rather weird. He's going to look rather weird because of this (OK I guess if the plan is to make him weird). If not, but we want him to look mage / guild friendly then he should perhaps be a Thaumaturge, or even an Elemental. Pacifistic Earth?
I have taken Martins advice and changed it to read:
Bishop Winton of Ostow. A Garbrialite member of the Unified Church, who is also a skilled Namer, the Bishop is new to Carzala. It is common knowledge his servants have been looking for a building or estate which can house 50 people and servants. He and his twenty servants, guards and advisors are currently staying at the main temple of the Church in New Seagate. Bishop Winton is known to be good friends with the Archbishop of Mordeaux. It is rumoured that he is interested in the activities of Destiny and Alfheim in Seagate. It is rumoured that Duke Leto DeWinter is holding 600,000sp worth of gold ingots for the Bishop within Castle Chilton.
--Jono 15:48, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
page 25
- Key to Seagate Map
- items are more normally listed in newspaper columns (i.e down colum 1 then down column 2) rather than left-right down the page.
I have fixed this issue so it reads down the left then down the right hand side. --Jono 15:38, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
page 26
- Order of the most faithful
- (minor) there are 5 sects, and making a tabard with the 5 colours looks naff (I tried it for the Inquisition arms). since the one tint they have in common is gold, perhaps a gold sash would be nicer.
- capitalize "Most Faithful"
I have changed the Caps on title. Umm I think they support the 4 Sects within the Church as the Order is old. I don't think we need arms for all Orders etc so am happy to leave it as it is. Again if people do want it changed to be more modern and for us to update it to 5 Sects for the Church we can do that. We can also change it to the gold as Martin suggests.
--Jono 15:53, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
Order of the Most faithful (The Unified Church of Seagate): is lead by Bishop Jocelyn. The order's members are comprised of people (any race) that assisted the Unified Church in New Seagate. The order meets in New Seagate once every season and is rumoured to have different ranks of members within it. Members have a tabard which has all four main sects' colours upon it (they are a little dated). 'Order of the Most faithful' is well respected within Carzala and the Duke has commanded all loyal subjects to assist the members if asked. --Jono 20:16, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
- Knights of the Compassionate Michael
- Compassionate Michael? Compassion is not a trait that Michael is well known for. :-) (More seriously, as part of theming the sects I'd prefer for the main-streams Orders at least that we stuck to their core concepts: Michael=martial, Raphael=defence and the little people, etc. Compassion as an order title would better fit in the Raphaelite sect).
- Some Michaeline Orders have mages, but Wiccans would be unusual (both because historically in-game Entities and PoL weren't good friends and because their rural focus isn't very martial). Is the plan to make these guys weirdos in the Michaeline Sect, or good solid main-streamers in contrast to the true nutters? The gauntlet is a nice touch, but should perhaps be red Sect's colours. (Gabby's are blue).
- Suggest amending to: Knights of the Hand of Michael (Michaelines of Carzala & Brandenburg): A moderately liberal Michaeline Order currently thought to be leaderless. Little is known of their activities other than that they openly accept Thaumaturges (and the occasional Elementalist mage) as members. Order members can be recognised by their deep red sash when dressed formally, and a deep red gauntlet on their battlefield standard. They can often be seen at court at Castle Chilton.
I have taken Martins advice and changed it to read:
Knights of the Hand of Michael (Michaelines of Carzala & Brandenburg): A moderately liberal Michaeline Order currently thought to be leaderless. Little is known of their activities other than that they openly accept Thaumaturgy's (and the occasional Elementalist mages) as members. Order members can be recognised by their deep red sash when dressed formally, and a deep red gauntlet on their battlefield standard. They can often be seen at court at Castle Chilton.
--Jono 16:14, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
Cool. <minor nitpick> Thaumaturges (I think). Martin Dickson
MS Word 2003 spelling checker said to change it to Thaumaturgy's but I am happy to go with whatever people decide. --Jono 17:12, 14 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
Thaumaturges . Otherwise, I would think the order openly accepts concrete things belonging to the abstract idea of thaumaturgy (or similar). Andreww 18:46, 15 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
I have changed it to read:
Knights of the Hand of Michael (Michaelines of Carzala & Brandenburg): A moderately liberal Michaeline Order currently thought to be leaderless. Little is known of their activities other than that they openly accept Thaumaturges (and the occasional Elementalist mages) as members. Order members can be recognised by their deep red sash when dressed formally, and a deep red gauntlet on their battlefield standard. They can often be seen at court at Castle Chilton.
--Jono 15:14, 18 Feb 2008 (NZDT)
