Talk:Animal Mind from a True Blue

Note that this spell effectively gives out 57100 Free EP by giving Ranger at SpellRank/2 automatically -- including master ranks.

I wouldn't call 42,000 to get to rank 20 with the spell 'free', and it only applies if you are willing to deal with the personality changes while you use the skill (it's also only the Minatour version, each individual chose which animal soul they absorbed). However it does seem on the generous side - perhaps it only operates in Caverns? I think Veor chose a Minotaur. --Errol 12:00, 16 Dec 2008 (NZDT)

Rank 10 Ranger, plus 10 PS (stackable with SoS on endurance or PS), plus the other ups and downs, makes it a very good EM200 spell, and I protested the Ranger skill element at the time. However, compare this with the GK Navigation which gives out 6 ranks of Navigator (including Ranks 11-16) for much less EP, without restrictions. Note also that the major Minotaur disadvantage is that they attack first, which is a party disadvantage, not a personal disadvantage. However much wierder, tougher effects without notable downsides are given out regularly, and at least one needs to spend EP for this effect.

My understanding on the Strength boost was that it wouldn't stack with other Strength boosting effects, as per standard magic stacking rules.
Yes it lets me get a boost while SoS is on endurance, but so does a waters of strength.
As for the ranger, yea, it would be a nice freebie, now if only I wasn't also ranking ranger for the rest of the time.
And most parties don't like the concept of no negotiations in my experience thus far :)
--Bernard 17:01, 16 Dec 2008 (NZDT)